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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:59:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Well kind of explains why Null minerals are so cheap.
For years it was botters in hi-sec and those minerals worth nothing, now it is Null that is full of bots and Alliance leaders profiting off them.
Ban the bloody lot of them, if they are botting ban them
If they knowingly profited of botting, ban them.
Take all the assets that they bought and stuff them in EvE central bank.
If they used bot money for Sov, strip them of the Sov.
Botting is crap and has damaged this game for so many years, get out your ban hammer CCP.
There was always botters in null, not just recently. But I agree with the rest of your post.
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:02:00 -
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Slap Chop wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:evenews24 maybe anti goon but does not changes the fact here.
Can you point out this so-called fact? I dredged through that wall of text you linked to but must have overlooked it somehow.
Aww someone upset because their eve news site got scooped? 
I bet if that exact same wall of text was on themittani.com you would be holding it into the air like it was the ten commandments.
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Posted - 2012.12.31 00:26:00 -
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CCP Sreegs is on the case. Sounds good to me. I loathe botters.
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Posted - 2012.12.31 00:28:00 -
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Also funny how this thread is turning into one eve news site versus the other.
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Posted - 2012.12.31 01:44:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Hannah Flex wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:This is completely irresponsible and in the future if you honestly care about an issue you will report it to me and give us time to look into it Stuff like this is why en24 and its contributors lost any credibility long ago and is nothing but the personal attack vehicle of a handful of players. Riverini, Darius, Jester, Gevlon Goblin, all of them. exactly they are literally eve fox news, they even have their own versions of hannity, rush, and that godawful warcriminal dude
Lets pretend for a second that all that information was handed directly over to CCP Sreegs for him to do his work. Cool. Then what? At what point will it be OK to report on this? CCP has never and will never get back with you saying, "Yo dawg, here is what I found out." Or simply a confirmation of the results of the investigation. The absolute best you can hope for is maybe, maybe CCP saying, "Our investigation on what you reported is over and no, we will not disclose those results." So any news site has only three options here at this point.
1. Wait for a very long time for what would have been news, to become ancient news that has an ever increasing chance another news site will report on it before them.
2. Report on it when they have guessed enough time has gone by. Which no one but CCP will know if enough time was enough, because only they know how deep the rabbit whole goes and how long it will take to explore it all.
3. Never say a word and keep quite about these bad things, like it never happened.
There is several tell-tale signs that something was not string the Kool-Aid if botters up and stop botting. Things like NPC kills taking a nose dive right after it was reported. I am sure there are others that we don't know about that CCP can track and such.
The only real indication, and even then it won't be for certain, is if key subjects suddenly stop logging in. 
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Posted - 2012.12.31 02:40:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Frying Doom wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Oh I also want to mention in case anyone is paying attention that if you really care about this issue this is the polar opposite of how to get a result.
We'll use the security world as an example because that's what I'm most familiar with. If I discover a vulnerability on a website it is completely irresponsible for me to go and publish that vulnerability in the public without first notifying the responsible parties and giving them time to act.
In this case you're basically telling these people someone's watching them and you think they'll continue doing bad things if they think we're going to look into this?
This is completely irresponsible and in the future if you honestly care about an issue you will report it to me and give us time to look into it before telling the world about it. I'm not saying not to write about it at all, but saying we've been notified and publishing all the potatoes without giving us an opportunity to look into it is more than a bit disingenuous. I think that the biggest problem here is the lack or credit that any news web site can then give for example We ratted these people out to CCP a month ago and then because of the information we provided 32 people were permabanned with CCP confiscating 2.1 trillion isk ect, ect, So they don't really get that added incentive to hold of on a story, much like real life news media generally do not hold off. So maybe like the forums processes need to be more transparent when it comes to complaints made against ISDs so to do all the other rulings, it is not after all like anyone's actual name is being used and in EvE actions are meant to have consequences, so yes it would be nice to know when you are letting someone into your cop if they have received previous punishments for RMTing or botting. But you may feel free to now call me a nut job as I would like transparency in the process. Yep we need to know who the banned botters are. Name em. It's not like they own the name, CCP owns everything. I too have ratted out a bunch of botters and have no clue as to the results. Why the big secret? Not being a hacking/scripting whiz, I am also curious how checking the servers is gonna expose a client side "injection"?
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Posted - 2012.12.31 02:46:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:baltec1 wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:
Yep attack the messenger when a story is true.
The messenger just alerted the bad guys they are being watched before CCP started watching them. Well the article did state CCP was sent the info Quote:
However, with checkable logs and related information sent to them (our readers will kindly understand that certain names and chat-log details could not be published here, but were sent to CCP Sreegs when the source agreed)GǪ perhaps it would be in the best interest of CCP Games to set an example?
So if they were not under the eye already then ... when? Looks like Riverini gave CCP alot more heads up then the Goons gave CCP with the FW expoit which they told CCP only after ~5 trillion profit so that others wouldn't be able to do the same expoit. On top of that the Goons got a PLEX for bringing the expoit to CCP will Riverini be getting a PLEX for his work uncovering of these botters?
Hooooooooooold on there. As much as I love dumpstering a goon on the forums as the next guy. They DID warn CCP of the exploit when the FW changes were on the test server as well as others did. CCP for whatever reason, did not think a group of players would be that dedicated to do it. Which those goons and I think some non-goons, I cant remember, did. They just broke it too hard.
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Posted - 2012.12.31 03:40:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:I did find some other interesting comments from when Retribution launched, but I know no one here is interested in bot tears.
I love bot tears!!!!! NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!
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Posted - 2012.12.31 03:54:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:thread highlights: Fallacies wrote:I felt a disturbance in the Force. Allow me to enlighten thee... ad hominem
You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument. Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it. Please try and post without the ad hominem fallacies. *disappears as mysteriously has he appeared*
He is right. Sadly I think no one here wants anything to do with a fallacies free thread. Everyone has their own agenda it seems. Everyone.
On a completely unrelated topic. What are your thoughts on if built items could be traced back to the builder? Would it create some industrial wars between rival manufactures? Content? Probably impossible to code though. 
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